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本帖旨在说明涉案帖子(https://bbs.pcbeta.com/viewthread-1838489-1-1.html)违规的原因。根据会员[size=1em]郑世祺 [size=1em](UID: 4783171)在https://bbs.pcbeta.com/viewthread-1852842-1-1.html的描述,涉事会员[size=1em]a565109863 (UID: 4115960,GitHub同名)所写的taskq、timeout_set 函数,与原作者论坛会员qcwap2012  (UID: 4858114,GitHub名zxystd)所写的itlwm项目里的对应代码(https://github.com/zxystd/itlwm)几乎一致。具体对比部分请参见https://bbs.pcbeta.com/viewthread-1852842-1-1.html

会员qcwap2012 在其项目itlwm里已经注明,此项目遵守GPLv2开源协议。










经过本人向黑苹果驱动VoodooI2C项目负责人之一的Kishor Prins(GitHub:Kprissu,论坛同)求证过后得知,虽然qcwap2012对于主体部分的代码没有变更软件许可证的权利(即BSD协议),但对于其重写过的代码,依旧保留变更软件许可证的权利,故此部分代码,应判定为使用GPLv2软件许可证。







首先要明确一点,以上二位所写的驱动代码,不是什么破解代码,是实打实的驱动源码,此类代码与黑苹果什么的没有关系,因为白苹果也可以使用,所以是受到软件许可证以及法律保护的。




根据GPLv2规定(全文在后面,由于翻译GPL协议属于违法行为,故需要中文的朋友请自行机翻),使用GPLv2的源码,在其他项目使用时,也必须遵守GPLv2协议。在此协议中,关于源码使用存在规定:使用原作者开放的源码时,必须必须说明来源,注明修改部分,且不得擅自闭源。然而,就目前情况看,a565109863 在修改时,未注明修改部分,未注明来源,也不曾将此代码开源。




当黑果板块分区版主天鹅无悔就此事与a565109863 进行沟通时,该会员反应冷漠:




在论坛的言论也可窥见一斑:







补充:该名会员曾经在论坛内其帖子内进行过众筹行为,按论坛规定,当予以飞机,但因当时其为论坛发布此类驱动的第一人,出于对该名会员成果的尊重,论坛仅仅做了回收帖子处理并口头警告,同时留论坛观察:






直到4月12日下午2点36分,在多方压力下,a565109863才发布了自己使用的源码位置,承认自己的抄袭行为:






a565109863在帖子里表示,自己的众筹行为,只是自己的一个意愿,并认为自己没筹到款,就是无罪的,立论煌煌,言之凿凿。殊不知,论坛对于未经报备的群聊的发布,是严格禁止的,对于涉及金钱的,更是“零容忍”,最高可直接处以禁访。对于该会员的处理,已经是在管理层讨论之下最轻的结果。

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因此。综上所述,可证明如下问题:
1、a565109863所写代码,涉嫌抄袭,非原创
2、a565109863所写代码,违反开源协议GPLv2,有侵权嫌疑
3、a565109863不能正视自己问题,漠视坛规,不能认识到论坛对于原创的底线
4、a565109863不能认真与版主沟通,拒绝为自己所做事情给出任何合理解释
5、a565109863推广自己未经报备的群聊,且群聊涉及资金。

其中,第1、2、3条,违反论坛对于资源原创性的规定以及相关的法律法规,第4条违反论坛关于论坛交流的要求,第5条违背论坛关于群聊发布的要求。

针对有些人对于举报者郑世祺身份的质疑,本人已经求证并确认,此人为米Pro机型的维护者,是一位混迹黑果三年的用户,一直无私维护米Pro机型的EFI,绝非什么小号或者淘宝商家号,此为其GitHub地址:https://github.com/stevezhengshiqi

一些会员认为,抄袭代码,是否违反坛规。答案显然是肯定的,如上所述,a565109863的行为已经违反了上面诸多的坛规,属于违反坛规的行为,这是无疑的。

针对一些会员认为处罚过重以及是否犯法的问题,在此我做出解释:在中国境内,虽然并未对GPLv2类协议作出明确司法解释,但是实际判例中,其作为不抵触中国法律的合同说明,是生效的,因此,根据《中华人民共和国合同法》的规定,违背此协议的行为构成违约,属违法行为。在中国已经有多个类似案例都是按照GPLv2协议生效来进行判决的,有兴趣的可以自己百度。a565109863的行为,即便不算违法,其行为也已经跟法律打了擦边球,触碰了论坛的底线,绝不能容忍。

针对一些会员认为某些人挥舞“正义大锤”,肆意站在道德制高点进行“道德绑架”,我想说的是,如果论坛连最起码的版权意识和尊重原创的意识都没有,那么这个论坛,靠什么立足?有些人可能会说,论坛不是也有违规资源嘛。是的,所以这就是我们这些版主督察还有管理们不停工作的理由,我们要不断找出论坛的违规资源,并予以回收。版主督察也是人,不是神仙,不可能做到面面俱到,但这不应该作为会员可以肆无忌惮侵权违规的理由!还有人可能说,论坛处罚a565109863是否有偏袒qcwap2012的嫌疑?我想说,公道自在人心,这两位所作所为,明眼人是看在眼里的,我相信各位“明眼人”会有自己的判断力。

还有一些会员认为,a565109863是论坛少数开发iokit驱动的人,失去了他会让他们少掉优秀的网卡驱动,会给他们造成损失。这种想法是没有根据,也站不住的。论坛可以缺少一两个开发者,但论坛,不能失去一个尊重原创的良好的环境!试想,如果论坛都抄袭成风,肆无忌惮,那么以后,还指望谁给我们带来更加优秀的作品呢?

还有一些会员指责这次的事件是淘宝奸商合伙组织的戏。俗话说得好,“打铁还需自身硬”。就算是奸商,只要自己的东西确实没有问题,又有何惧怕指责?更何况,并没有证据显示,这些质疑的人是奸商。
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Also add information on how to contact you by electronic and paper mail.

If the program is interactive, make it output a short notice like this
when it starts in an interactive mode:

    Gnomovision version 69, Copyright (C) year name of author
    Gnomovision comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `show w'.
    This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
    under certain conditions; type `show c' for details.

The hypothetical commands `show w' and `show c' should show the appropriate
parts of the General Public License.  Of course, the commands you use may
be called something other than `show w' and `show c'; they could even be
mouse-clicks or menu items--whatever suits your program.

You should also get your employer (if you work as a programmer) or your
school, if any, to sign a "copyright disclaimer" for the program, if
necessary.  Here is a sample; alter the names:

  Yoyodyne, Inc., hereby disclaims all copyright interest in the program
  `Gnomovision' (which makes passes at compilers) written by James Hacker.

  <signature of Ty Coon>, 1 April 1989
  Ty Coon, President of Vice

This General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into
proprietary programs.  If your program is a subroutine library, you may
consider it more useful to permit linking proprietary applications with the
library.  If this is what you want to do, use the GNU Lesser General
Public License instead of this License.

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Ardentwheel  不是神仙,尽量做正确、有良知的事就好  发表于 2020-4-12 22:27 IP属地未知
eszq  顶  发表于 2020-4-12 21:58 IP属地湖北
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发表于 2020-4-12 21:15:20 IP属地浙江 |只看该作者
有理有据,支持!

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发表于 2020-4-12 21:23:45 IP属地安徽 |只看该作者
支持, 发现牛人们不但技术牛, 脾气更牛

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发表于 2020-4-12 21:31:39 IP属地浙江 |只看该作者
管理处理的很好,a565109863的行为确实欠妥,不过我认为目前论坛的风气却是过于浮躁,动不动谩骂指责,缺少包容沟通

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发表于 2020-4-12 21:33:54 IP属地河南 |只看该作者
支持论坛维护我们所有人共同的交流空间。

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发表于 2020-4-12 21:39:24 IP属地广东 |只看该作者
官方定论~~挺好~~~

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发表于 2020-4-12 21:40:47 IP属地广东 |只看该作者
半成品不支持开源,而且作者有一直维护更新,没有中断。半成品一旦开源,大量变种出来。最先的开发者没有搞定的问题,后来的开发者搞定了,论坛的一些人证明可以使用,源开发者应该向后来者学习一下吧。。。需要源码的,参与一起开发的,可以联系作者提供源代码。你不参与开发还要求别人提供源码,居心何在。。。一个未成熟的方案,居然引起这么一大风波,别有用心。。。

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qiuxiangzhi  所以你的意思是,半成品用都还不能的情况下就没用别人的源码?没有违反协议?同时,开源的软件,  发表于 2020-4-15 22:26 IP属地江西

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巡察使 7周年庆典勋章 我是大学生!

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87676503 发表于 2020-4-12 21:40
半成品不支持开源,而且作者有一直维护更新,没有中断。半成品一旦开源,大量变种出来。最先的开发者没有搞 ...

你这么说  就证明你根本没有理解版权和原创是论坛底线这句是什么意思,建议从头到尾仔细看完再说话

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7周年庆典勋章 8周年庆典勋章 我是大学生!

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支持楼主,辛苦了

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发表于 2020-4-12 21:51:09 IP属地香港 |只看该作者
顶起,闹出这个事确实让很多人不爽!

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发表于 2020-4-12 21:56:00 IP属地广东 |只看该作者
严重支持,这个跟学术造假都是一样的道理,你用了谁的文献,就应该指明,不应当把所有的功劳放在自己的身上

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果然是有问题,技术比较nb的人 都是比较谦虚比较文明礼貌的

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发表于 2020-4-12 22:00:14 IP属地天津 |只看该作者
支持一下!感谢每一个为这个世界变得更好而愿意贡献自己的时间和精力的人,对这些人的“尊重”是最起码的要求。

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发表于 2020-4-12 22:05:27 IP属地山东 |只看该作者
支持官方定论,保护版权和原创

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发表于 2020-4-12 22:11:29 IP属地山东 |只看该作者
支持,良好的开源环境需要大家共同维护。开源协议是开源领域的支柱
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发表于 2020-4-12 22:13:38 IP属地江西 |只看该作者
可能远景本身不是严格意义上的技术论坛,才会闹出这种笑话,害得管理员们劳心费神,这在纯技术论坛无法想象。好环境必须维护,有好的环境自然会有好的作品。
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